- Harper, MacKay - How do you get a seat as an onlooker at the International Criminal Court at the Hague. Do they sell tickets? How far in advance do you have to book?

See: Tories to ignore vote on releasing prisoner reports, CTV News, 11 Dec.'09 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091211/afghanistan_motion_091211/20091211?hub=QPeriod#commentSection

"Defence Minister Peter MacKay has argued that releasing the records 'could be helpful to the enemy' and jeopardize Canadian troops."
Oh, is Pater MacKay still Minister of Defence?

Great, that means that when Canada withdraws its troops form Afghanistan in (July?) 2011, that Parliament can expect to get the documents. It's quite a while away from now, but might be the simplest solution, going to court would take longer.

Harper, MacKay's timeline for handing over these documents is more like "when hell freezes over".

Why, you ask. Especially when their reason is the safety of the troops.

"An interesting remark by MacKay, when he 'testified' last week at the Committee, may shed some light on this dark corner - "I am proud to have associated myself with the military and the diplomats" [sic]. Sounds like a Freudian slip to me.

And compare it to what Gar Pardy, retired Canadian diplomat, had to say the other day "Harper has been going around the world lately wrapping himself in the Canadian flag, but has achieving only to sully it".

Clearly a strategy of Harper and MacKay is to identify themselves with the military. But, why. For one, they may be hoping it will save their bacon - keep in mind potential criminal investigations by the International Criminal Courts, not to mention for Canadian criminal laws. Other motives - you tell me."

see below: cicblog.com/comments.html
- Peter MacKay word unreliable - a euphemism for liar - you judge
- Harper, MacKay show the utmost contempt for Parliament.


Well, let me see if I have the logic.

MacKay has been making great efforts to identify himself with Canada's military. Hence, he is 'one of our proud men and women in uniform'. And, withholding the documents may save his bacon. Therefore, dsiclosing the documents after Canada's troops withdraw, will still jeopardize Canadian troops - it may only be a handful of troops and they may all members of the Harper Cabinet, but hey, works for me.

Ditto for Harper.

Releasing the documents 'could be helpful to the enemy'.

This hardly requires comment.

The logic jumps out at you when you keep in mind that for Harper, MacKay, O'Connor, Baird, Prentice, Van Loan, Nicholson, Toews, . . . oh, and did I mention Day, the enemy is the Official Opposition, Ignatieff, the Liberal Party; Layton and the NDP; and, yes, although Harper has disenfranchised all those voted Block, Gilles Duceppe and the Block; and, in a word, anyone else who dares to stand up to them.

Could these documents be helpful to this 'enemy' - you betcha!

To all those that say Harper, MacKay, O'Connor, or whoever else it is at the time, when they say they will respect Parliament and withdraw Canadian troops from Afghanistan in 2011 - you are, obviously, one of those 33% diehard supporters of Harper and the Con's or one of the additional 3-4% that are supporting Harper and the Con's. Canada, all Canadians as nation, our children and our children's children owes you all a great debt of gratitude.

How do you get a seat as an onlooker at the Int'l Criminal Court. Do they sell tickets? Do you to book in advance? Are there Scalpers? Can you apply to be on the prosecution team? Pro Bono? MacKay, you were Foreign Affairs Minister, would you check that out for me. Thanks.

Lloyd MacIlquham cicblog.com/comments.html

Submitted, 9:47am, PST, 13 Dec.09,
Summing up the spin on that documents release, Janyce McGregor , 11 Dec.'09
http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2009/12/summing-up-the-spin-on-that-documents-release.html#socialcomments-submit Tab 13

not posted

re-submitted, 10:34pm PST (1:34 EST), 13 Dec.'09, (changing "h... freezes over" see above "hell ..." - with "... freezes over" and it was posted

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Submitted: December 13, 2009 @ 10:10 am PST
Parliament in showdown with Harper government over Afghan documents, 11 Dec. '09, Jennifer Ditchburn, THE CANADIAN PRESS
http://www.coastreporter.net/article/GB/20091211/CP02/312119899/-1/SECHELT/opposition-passes-rare-motion-ordering-tories-to-release-afghanistan&template=cpArt